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The Midevial warming period is one of the top bullet points that is used in favor of doing things to address global warming.

Let's simplify things for a second: Let's go back to the Midevial Warming period (MWP) and make it a cold period. I mean really cold. So cold that Canada is 45% covered with ice and it is coming our way.

Now do you do something?

Does it really matter what caused it to come to this?

(That's always been an odd argument to me. If you crash your car it doesn't matter if it was the other guys fault when you have to get to work the next morning.)

So, now back to the real MWP. It absolutly changed geo-politics for 500 years. Good things like England's vinyards being considered the best in the world to bad things like the potato famon. Crop failure became almost an every other year occurance. Greenland and Iceland were created and much of what we call the middle east problem was born. Deserts grew and coastal ranges flooded. Millions died.

It was a HUGE deal. It changed everything.

The US wants a stable world. Very large disasters, man made or natural, threaten that stability. Terrorism pails in the shadow that is caused by global warming. We are advanced enough to TRY and keep the planet's weather stable enough not to cause crop failure and disaster. Not to mention so much death and nation building.

To achieve this we really don't have to do much of anything that isn't already a good idea, like cheap clean energy.

Why NOT try to avoid it something this big, something this bad?

Why take the risk of 500 years of global unrest and the risk that our country might not make it through?

Even if we are wrong, even if this is just scientists going nutz because microscopes have rotted their brains, why not err on the side of cation?

Especially when our Mom and Sister own property that every single map says will be underwater. Maybe you do too!

Why not indeed!


We need to talk about this antother time, because this post is about to be pushed off the front page.
I don't understand the first part of your argument, though. Maybe you could restate it? Then I'll use that to start a new thread.

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Seen at low tide

  • American White Pelican
    Saw 30 in one flock on a weptember evening while fishing
  • Hummingbird
    Finally, my first hummingbirds. Saw them on a fire bush in Crystal Beach, FL. My rental's neighbor's yard is all xeriscaped, which is ugly to me but just fine with the little hummers. At first, I thought they were the biggest hornets I'd ever seen.
  • Flamingo!
    One of these dudes flew right over my house. I couldn't believe it. And please don't tell me it was a roseated spoonbill because it was a frickin' flamingo, dude! Huge and pink and right there above me. I was like so freaking out, you know?
  • Falcon!
    Don't see these guys too often. Wish we did. Bet the morning doves don't.
  • Black Skimmer
    These beauties are getting scarce, but one flew by yesterday at low tide on the hunt for minnows.
  • Dead sea turtle
    cool, but smelly
  • Reddish Egret
    These have been hanging out around the pool quite a bit lately. Must be a new group of adolesent birds -- the youngsters like to hunt where the water is clear, and it takes them a day to figure out there are not now and never will be fish in the swimming pool no matter how clear the water.
  • Sand Piper
  • Brown Pelican
    I saw a flock of about 200 of these at Disappearing Island yesterday, just south of Anclote Island on the west coast of FL. Good to see such a large flock.
  • Wood Pecker
    They've developed a sudden interest in the orange tree, which just went into bloom.
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